• Disclaimer And Rules


    • The views expressed in the forum are entirely those of the author and there is no intention to represent these opinions as being those of Foggy Friends.

    • You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless Foggy Friends, and any related web sites to Foggy Friends. We also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any information we have about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any information posted by you.

    • Foggy Friends accept no liability for any loss or damage (whether direct, indirect, special, consequential or otherwise) arising out of errors or omissions contained in this web site. We give no warranty that the web site will be available on an uninterrupted basis and accept no liability in respect of loss or damage arising out of its unavailability. Also, we accept no liability in respect of loss or damage arising out of changes made to the content of this web site by unauthorised third parties.

    • The information presented on this web site is not intended to replace the counsel of your health practitioner. It is important that you speak to your health practitioner before altering anything in your treatment plan. Foggy Friends does not endorse any medications, supplements, products or treatments for ME/CFS and is not responsible or liable for any adverse effects caused by their use or misuse.

    • Foggy Friends is not responsible or liable for any damages which may occur as a result of your use or misuse of the information available through the web site and forum.


    Membership at Foggy Friends is a privilege and not a right. The Administrators and Moderators reserve the right to refuse membership, remove, edit, move or close any thread or post for any reason. You must enter a valid email address as registration requires verification that the email address exists. Accounts must be activated within 10 days. During this time you will receive several reminders. After 10 days we will remove any non activated accounts. All registrations are moderated and manually activated.

    The aim of this site is to provide a fun safe place for people to seek help, support and advice, free from harassment. A place to share smiles, tears, views and treatments that may have helped them live with this illness. If it is felt that any message within the Foggy Friends community contravenes these ideas they will be deleted without question and the offender will be issued a warning/infraction and eventually banned.

    We have a wide range of member ages from 12-80. Please bear this in mind when using the forum and keep all conversation appropriate for all ages.


    If rules are broken, the Administrators and Moderators will issue a warning or infraction. A warning does not add any infraction points and serves as a method to remind members of the rules and encourages them to be followed. If infraction points are given, the points may add up to a temporary or permanent ban. If we have no further problems from a member then the points will expire and your account will revert back to zero points. However, a log of infractions and warnings will remain on your account so we know why and when they were given.

    Although we have a warning/infraction system we reserve the right to instantly ban members if we see fit. (We are happy to discuss any warning/infraction that a member feels is unfair as long as discussions are held in a calm and sensible manner. Arguing, insulting and harassing Administrators and Moderators will not be tolerated and may lead to further warnings/infractions or a ban).

    • Signature Rule Violation - 2 Points - Expires = 7 Days
    • Disclaimer/Rules Violation - 5 Points - Expires = 20 Days
    • Inappropriate Language - 5 Points - Expires = 30 Days
    • Misuse Of Private Message System - 10 Points - Expires = 20 Days
    • Insulted Other Member(s) - 15 Points - Expires = 90 Days
    • Spammed Advertisements (Permanent Ban) - 60 Points - Expires = Never
    • Instant Ban (One Month Ban) - 30 Points - Expires = 30 Days
    • Instant Ban (Permanent Ban) - 60 Points - Expires = Never


    If you wish to have your account deleted from Foggy Friends, please contact us through the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page with your request. Please state if you wish to have all your threads/posts deleted at the same time. (Please Note: Threads/posts cannot be deleted once your account has been deleted. All threads/posts will then remain the property of Foggy Friends).


    You agree not to post any adult material. This includes all pornography, erotic images, or otherwise lewd or obscene content. This also includes any sites which provide "links to" information about such material.


    Foggy Friends is a totally non profit making site and does not accept any advertising. In some circumstances the Administrators may allow some promotional or advertising posts, (providing Foggy Friends benefits to aid running costs) however permission must be sought first. Any promotional posts in the forum by merchants or their representatives without permission will result in the person responsible having their message(s) deleted followed by a warning or ban. Members also should not post links to other sites asking for donations without the consent of an Administrator.

    4. AVATARS

    Members are able to use any standard gallery avatar. Members who have donated to Foggy Friends are entitled to use a avatar of their own. If you have made a donation you will need to contact an Administrator who will check, resize and upload the avatar for you. Animated avatars are not allowed.


    Members are asked to not act as "back seat moderators". If members note an issue which contravenes something in these rules, they are welcome to bring it to the attention of a member of the Moderator Team. Only do this if a moderator team member has not replied within 6 hours. Do not respond to such topics yourself. Members who constantly "act" as moderators may be warned.


    We reserve the right to delete any members that are bouncing email back to us. It is your responsibility to keep your email and Foggy Friends account up to date.


    Bullying or harrassament, sexual or otherwise will not be tolerated on Foggy Friends. Anyone experiencing any form of bullying or harassment should report this to the moderating team using the "Report ()" button which is shown on every post and private message. Please report any instances of bullying or harassment as soon as possible. This will allow moderators to deal with the issue in a timely and appropriate manner. Anyone found to be bullying or harassing members may be banned from the site without prior discussion. The length of ban will reflect the seriousness of the bullying or harassment and in many cases may result in a permanent ban from Foggy Friends. Decisions to ban a member for bullying or harassment are made by the whole moderating team. It is not an individual decision and is not a decision taken lightly.


    Due to the nature of the illness and varying ways of diagnosis, some people are diagnosed as having CFS, others ME. While this is out of the sufferers hands, we will not tolerate any kind of discussion which looks down on one diagnosis or elevates the other.


    Please do not make consecutive posts. If you have made a mistake in your post or wish to add something, please use the 'EDIT' button to edit your post, which you can do for upto 24 hours after posting. If you have posted in the wrong forum section and need a thread moving to the correct section please contact a Administrator or Moderator instead of creating a duplicate.


    You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have consent from the owner of the copyrighted material.


    If you decide for whatever reason that you no longer wish to use Foggy Friends, that's fine, but you will not be permitted to post a "goodbye/leaving" thread. These threads have been known to cause a lot of bad feeling and will be deleted.


    You agree not to post any illegal material. This includes copyrighted works, commercial audio, video, PC/Console games, pirated software, ROMS, emulators, phreaking, hacking, password cracking, IP spoofing and music files or any material in violation of any International, National or Local law or regulation. This also includes any sites which provide "links to" or "how to" information about such material.


    Foggy Friends is not an appropriate place to seek or to give medical advice. Posts giving medical advice may be deleted by the moderating team for the safety both of members and of the Foggy Friends site. While Foggy Friends is a site for people with chronic and complex medical problems it is intended for support and friendship. Sharing personal experiences is acceptable and useful but please be careful not to offer medical advice to other members. If you have concerns or questions over your treatment or symptoms then feel free to ask for other members' experiences, but the best place to seek advice is from your own health practitioner.


    Members may have their photograph added to the member gallery once they have made a minimum of 50 posts on the forum or been a member for at least three months.


    You agree not to post any material which is abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of ANY law.


    You agree not to post any personal information. This includes personal phone numbers, personal addresses, credit card details, bank details and personal email addresses. Members may exchange personal details via PM (Private Message) or via email. (If a member asks you for personal details don't feel pressured into doing so. If you are worried someone is not who they say they are, or you are being put under pressure for personal details please contact an Administrator or Moderator immediately. Please always be aware! People may not always be the person you think they are).


    We realise it can be enjoyable for some to have debates, but whenever a political topic starts, it sometimes gets out of hand very quickly and can cause distress and bad feeling against fellow members. This includes any ME/CFS related political topics. Some intelligent debate of newsworthy issues may be left to run at the Administrators and Moderators discretion. The Administrators and Moderators reserve the right to remove, edit, or close any thread or post for any reason. If it is found that members are getting upset then these threads will be closed or removed. (If any member is found to relish in the upsetting of other members and not allowing them to have an opinion then these offenders will be warned and eventually banned).


    Members should post in a way which is consistent with "normal writing". Members should not use "text speak", post excessive numbers of emoticons, large, small or coloured text etc. Similarly users should not "SHOUT" (all capital letters) or use excessive punctuation (e.g. ! and ?) in topic titles or posts. Users consistently abusing this will be warned.


    (Private simply means that your message is not posted on the forum for all to see). Administrators have the ability to monitor Private Messages (PM's). You agree not to use the Private Message system to circumvent the Foggy Friends rules regarding defamatory, insults, threats or harassment. Should such abuse come to the attention of the Administrators, the Administrators will treat PM's as if they were open posts and take further action. We always aim to resolve any issues in a calm and sensible manner. If any emails are sent to the Administrators and Moderators regarding Foggy Friends you agree not to circumvent the Foggy Friends rules regarding defamatory, insults, threats or harassment. Should such abuse come to the attention of the Administrators, the Administrators may take further action.


    Please do not abuse the forum by posting unnecessarily just to increase your rank. You will probably find the Administrators will simply lower your post count.


    If you find a post inappropriate or offensive in any way, click the exclamation triangle image at the bottom of the post in question and fill in the form. All Administrators and Moderators will be notified of the post and will take any necessary action. Please report any inappropriate or offensive posts immediately...'As soon as you see any'. If posts are reported immediately, they will retain the original content for us to see. If a post is reported to us hours later then there is little or nothing we can do if a member edits their post and takes out any inappropriate or offensive remarks.

    22. RESEARCH

    Foggy Friends is not to be used for research purposes. The repetitive nature of the research requests in the past, from people who contributed nothing to the Foggy Friends community, has led to the decision to ban research being carried out on our members. Anyone found to be signing up to the forum with the intention of gathering data from our members will be permanently banned immediately.


    Signatures may contain up to 125 characters of text (Small or normal size). Any signature containing inappropriate language or advertising without permission will be removed.


    Any member found to be posting slanderous comments about Foggy Friends and it's Administrators and Moderators will be instantly banned and further action may be taken.


    You agree not to post Spam, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations.


    The Lightning Process has been discussed a lot on Foggy Friends and discussions have got very heated. We lost several members who really needed the support of Foggy Friends because all they ever seen was pushy posts about The Lightning Process. It was decided that we would have a poll to see who wanted to continue reading about The Lightning Process. The outcome of the poll was that the majority of voters no longer wanted to read about The Lightning Process. Some Lightning Process supporters registered several accounts and also asked others to join to try and rig the poll which means the majority vote should actually be a lot bigger. We do have a huge thread that discusses the Lightning Process that has been closed to save any further arguing. You may access that thread HERE.


    Username changes are not allowed except: If the member has made a spelling error in their name; If the member is being harassed; If the username triggers bad memories due to associations (for example with a relationship breakup). New members have 14 days grace period after joining in which they may request a username change. After this time changes are not allowed except at the discretion of the administrators.


    Many people find that Foggy Friends is a good source of information and would like to use this information for their research articles etc. If you would like to use information either from the Foggy Friends website or forum then you need to ask permission from the Administrators and also make it clear to members that you are doing research and would like to use their comments in your article. Again permission from these members is needed. Any topics relating to research for your own gain without permission will be deleted. (Please Note: Foggy Friends has all content registered with a copyright agency who will work on our behalf in any event of copyright violation).

    29. WARNING!!

    All usernames and IP Addresses are logged for security reasons. Impersonating a child in order to deceive and interact with children is paedophilia, under the law. Adults who pose as children will be traced and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.